In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. . Stain? BillNole. Russian olive will smoke a substantial amount if not left to dry out for long enough. Russian olive or Elaeagnus Angustifolia is viewed as an invasive species. A little off topic for this page so you might not get much response here. Don't burn it until it has seasoned for at least one year. Its a very interesting subject you bring up Audrie that I would also like to hear comments about. Ive burned wood for heat much of my life, but in my new house my focus is on wood for cooking. While holiday cards often feature cute, picturesque birch rounds in the hearth, old-time Yule logs in 6th and 7th century Europe were monster tree trunks that were meant to burn all day, and in certain cultures for twelve . It burns like coal,but wreaks havoc on a chainsaw and chain!!! Thanks for the listings.I burn 3-4 cords every Winter,and burn all but the softwoods.I was looking for BTU content for Im new to burning wood in an open fireplace. It is a hot burning wood and is very heavy to move. The speices discussion boils down to one quantitative parameter, I.e. Last night I was turning and sanding a natural edge bowl from this wood, leading to a pronounced and long-lasting allergic reaction in the airways (runny nose, asthma, ..). Around here it is about the most common tree taken down by tree services, so lots of firewood guys sell it because they get the wood dropped off in their yards for free. I live in Oregon(Portland) and have used all the local species for both fireplace and stove heat. So there is no net Co2 that goes into the atmosphere. if it does not stay at 30,40 C . It is difficult to evaluate available heat value of wood because of the complex process of obtaining heat from wood. As long as its dry it will burn and put out enough heat to make it worth it since you dont have to buy the wood. I own 60 acres here in upstate NY, 2 hours north of NYC. Caution, cutting dead hedge will eat your saw chain in a heart beat, it becomes so hard and stringy. Im guessing that the Hemlock that I can get is eastern soft wood correct 15.9? IT IS USELESS FOR FIREWOOD BECAUSE OF THE LITTLE/NO HEAT OUTPUT, BUT MAINLY ITS TOO DANGEROUS TO BURN INDOORS, AS IT POPS AND EXPLODES AND THROWS SPARKS EVERYWHERE. Russian olive burns clean, produces minimal creosote, and doesnt spark and pop. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sometimes the base of the tree is hollow with a wet sawdust inside. Stay warm and dont worry about it so much. Superb device . Another opinion added to the interwebs Cheers, Happy Burning. Just curious what kind of energy we are getting from them compared to the cords of hardwood we buy. Some softwood varieties produce a lot, meaning youll need to clean the chimney more often. Nobody seems able to beat 3 second cycle for efficiency for single splitters. Much like poplar firewood varieties, the wood from the Russian olive in most cases is easy to split. Another challenge with Russian olive trees is the thorns that can cause nasty injuries. Step 3 Add surfacing: $113.00 . One perk of Russian olive: it burns hot. burning tires/popcorn).beyond these corrections: colour will darken considerably, with uv exposure, from a medium yellow-brown, to a darker, gravy-coloursapwood, is generally narrow (1-3 rings), usually cream- colour, but some have a bright lemon-yellow sapwoodworks fairly well, but it is coarse textured, semi-ring-porous wood, so sanding/finishing can be a challenge.finishes/glues with no problems.being naturally a semi-desert species, the wood isRead more . MSI applied and was awarded a total of $247,000 from the Colorado Water Conservation Board and Colorado Parks and Wildlife for a three-year project to remove the trees from Bakers Bridge to the New Mexico line. Have a friend with a fireplace?, bundle about a dozen of the fat lighter sticks with a ribbon and this makes a great gift. Investing in a safety fence to protect you and your fireplace is a good idea anyway, especially if you plan to use Russian olive or firewood tamarack or fir regularly. Non resinous wood has around 8000 to 8500 BTU per pound, resinous wood has around 8600 to 9700 BTU per pound. We have tons of felling oak trees pushed up waiting to be cut , fully seasoned too !!! As a common invasive species, you have probably seen Russian olive often on a countryside walk. I live in eastern oregon and my main problem is the identification of trees. Russian Olive RO 250. Keeps for a couple years at best. I dont know how they compare split and dried. I think its high on the calorie scale, as its known to get good and hot. Great info! Despite this, there are some pros to using it as firewood, as well as some cons. Mild food is best as it doesnt overwhelm the subtle smoky taste. Pricing/Availability: Russian Olive tends to be a very small tree, with a highly branching form that is not conducive to large or straight logs. As the chainsaw reaches the middle of the tree, the tree will begin to fall due to the hinge you originally cut. The issue is that Russian olive is hard to buy as firewood and difficult to process in large quantities as opposed to hackberry for example. As with most dense hardwoods, seasoning olive firewood requires patience. Like some other fruitwoods, howeverparticularly mulberrythey are difficult to set on fire. Mulga roots are about the only thing hotter/longer/denser. There is nothing wrong with burning well seasoned softwoods, but care should be taken not to over fire with ones that tend to burn fast and hot. Im also guessing that the Hickory that I can get are the Shagbark or the bitternut 27.7-26.5 correct? Im in North Texas and I have a half acre I can devote to renewable firewood. So far, MSI has cleared an estimated 290 acres within the Animas River watershed, removing approximately 2,700 stems of Russian olive and 340 of the similarly invasive Tamarisk plants. I enjoyed the story about his neighbor that let his oak fire wood dry for a whole week and it wouldnt burn LOL !!!! I have been looking for the B.T.U. Or, if the wood is worth your effort. I have pictures of him with an electric pole saw (hes deathly afraid of power equipment)cutting 2 diameter branches on the ground !!! ), You can help support the site by buying one of these resources, designed and published by The Wood Database. cajun, Any BTU rating for Russian olive? Jul 21, 2013. Check out the following table comparing the heat output of olive to various other common types of firewood. Dont worry about the ashes your stove produces. When you burn the tree, you put the carbon back. Brent C. Minard. With the ability to adapt to any soil type, the Russian olives tree can tolerate more than 75 gallons of water daily. Speed up the drying time further by following these tips: Olive firewood rounds have a yellowish brown or cream heartwood that tends to deepen in color with age. here in washington all the old timers and people that heat there houses just with wood buy douglas fir and the hipsters burn hard wood because they think its better. In comparison, Russian olive burns at 23 BTU. The aspen and spruce burn quickly and hot which works well with my boilers aquastat and powered vent system when the water cools below 175F, the fan kicks on and the easy starting, fast burning junk wood flames up quickly which works well to maintain a constant water temp at 180F maintains the set point and keeps the control loop tight. Hardwoods, ideally should be two years old, but one year is a minimum in the northeast. hhmmfrom what you are describing, I doubt that the cupboard is olive, or Russian olivepictures would help.. Freshly milled or sanded, the main (or only) wood Ive come across that has green heartwood is poplar. Likewise, wood that does not burn clean, including unseasoned wood, produces more creosote. Western dogwood grows along the west coast and canyon live oak is common in California and Oregon. The Majestic fireplace has held up quite well, except for the back wall. Thanks. and we burn them in our fireplace after they are seasoned. This is russian olive. I got a load of osage orange once and while it burned great, lots of coals, it also seemed to produce a lot of ashes. Western Hardwoods Figures from California Energy Commission BTU Rating Based on 90 cubic feet of solid wood per 128 cubic foot cord Do they make good firewood? NO BUGS EITHER. I found a big beech limb fully seasoned and cut it up for a try . We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues. For wood stoves I beleive ash,oak,hickory mix. Someone is selling russian olive for $50/cord. Or would it be worth the heat and not having that pile to look at anymore? Does anyone have any experience with gum? They are also a very resilient tree, capable of living in almost any condition, making them even more of an issue to permanently remove. Required fields are marked *. Not good for firewood but great for woodworking. By time it is dry, there is nothing left. My Ontario woodlot is in the Great Lakes-Saint Lawrence Forest Region, which includes conifers white and red pines, hemlock, eastern white cedar, white spruce and balsam fir; and decidu0us sugar, red and silver maples, red and white oak, beech, bitternut and shagbark hickory, white and black ash, yellow and white birch, trembling and largetooth aspen, basswood, butternut, black cherry, ironwood, blue beech, occasional cottonwoods and surviving white elms (and others I probably left out). Stack the wood in a dry, protected area. I havent been able to compare it to madrone, or the oaks (like Oregon white, black oak, etc.). One random ember could quickly start an unwanted fire. In natural settings, they quickly become invasive, crowding out other native species. Your main consideration is that, to burn clean, any wood. (Also, a number whose seed pods are only opened by bushfires.). The Best Fast-Growing Trees to Use For Firewood, North Forty News: Russian Olives Fall Out of Favor, University of Missouri Extension: Wood Fuel for Heating. I have been researching on the Net and found some basic info but nothing so far as to how often/what size to harvest different wood species. Ill cut a limb, and if its yellow inside its hedge. Ten pieces of green 20 yellow birch or hard maple last for roughly eight hours and throw tons of heat. Thanks, Barry , I think tulip poplar would be similar to cottonwood since they are both in the poplar family . Step away from the tree at a 45-degree angle once it starts to fall. Will burn mostly oak as it gets colder. Read to find out. Russian olive trees make dense, slow-burning firewood. Mostly ash, as all my neighbors here in northeast New Jersey a spit from the Hudson River are culling their ash trees for fear of the borer. With an abundance of Apple orchards in the area, Apple wood is also readily available. Olive wood - what a find, limited quantity! Store firewood somewhere constantly dry and airy. Being a semi professional firewood dealer here in the Redding area of the State of Jefferson, California I find a lot of mixed wood. I live in Northeastern Pennsylvania, where I have 20 acres of mixed hardwoods. The best-known firewoods are white and red oak trees. It is not wood that leaks water as soon as it is split, unlike sycamore wood. The black oaks just had too many leaves in that Nov and the snow was too heavy. Read to find out. Dont even bother. In mid-summer, after the sap has risen and saturated the stump, cut it. seriously other than the odd russian olive its rare to find a tree someone will let yah cut down around here that aint cottonwood though occasionally someone wants a maple or something . I find black cherry and hickory give the best burning results. Originally, Russian olives were planted in America to act as a windbreaker and soil stabilizers. or should I stay clear.Phil. Enjoy your fires! As has been said, quite unpleasant. Is it worth it? I have about a hundred of these that were cut in maintaining a power line right of way. The average efficiency rating is around 19.9 million BTU per cord. Less dense softwoods have less BTU per cord than more dense hardwood but they also weigh less per cord. The Russian Olive I have seems very dense, but I haven't burned much yet. After the moisture evaporates the logs burn great . Green firewood only gives off about 40% of the energy of dry firewood. I know I know I can hear the comments about creosote but as long as it is dry and you give it air to burn it does great. Is non posionous sumac ok to burn in a fire place. Any idea if this is a hardwood and the BTUs? Another potentially invasive plant with probably similar BTUs/burn value is it's cousin: Autumn Olive. Chopped up a few live oaks and boy that is a great wood for the fireplace! The wood is dense, like ironwood, meaning it burns slowly, and you wont have to keep adding more to the fire. It does have a more bitter, eye burning smoke than most woods. The smaller stuff makes a great campfire for cold weather, putting off a blue flame and tons of heat. I am going to try some Apple wood next to see if it matches up with the hickory. Range of burning properties of the Australian eucalypts covers the full spectrum (and dont even bother with wattles). They also have little thorns on the smaller limbs. In my lifetime I have seen the end of the Chestnut,the American elm,and now the Ash, Dick Ashton. They also began infesting fields, preventing local farmers from growing hay, and decreasing the overall grass quantity. . Some locals began tackling the problem on their own by funding small removal projects, but the effort was minimal in response to the widely growing tree population. Your plants roots will love you for it! The better your firewood has been seasoned, the better it will burn. In the wild, Russian olive trees have been known to smell very sweet and strong. Firewood with High or Very high heat output 1 cord = 21,000,000 . Ive also heard this about black locust, which I also burn. Though seasoning the wood for long enough will eventually make the smell dissipate. Really enjoy the contributions. The drawback is that the trees are small and have thorns . 1) Ironwood and Hornbeam are considered the same species locally. I farm a good bit of ground and we have about 350 acres of river bottom woods . I look for fallen trees that are gray and smooth. Russian olive is a long lived tree (80-100 years) which grows rapidly up to 10 m in height and 30 cm in diameter and starts to fruit after 5-6 years. The wood from these oak trees is prized for its strength and density, and that density makes it one of the best at producing heat. I have also burned green osage orange. Your chart shows the two very close in heat output and weight. Here is a link to a site that I found a couple of years ago.http://www.demesne.info/Garden-Help/Trees-Shrubs/Firewood-hard.htm I have an old Black Bart insert and have found that in mid atlantic East coast, the oaks rule (Esp. Even though it is not firewood you should use to start your fire, it does produce a BTU of 23 million per cord once it gets going. Ill have much pecan to burn this fall , we cut a huge tree . In the early 1900s, Russian olive trees were introduced to North America to stabilize soil and provide windbreaks. What Are The Varieties Of Russian Olive Wood? You know the one, thorny, ugly and wild and grows like a weed. The Ultimate Firewood Storage Guide For 2023, How Good Is Walnut Firewood? The data for these charts was compiled from various sources with different firewood types. Ponderosa Pine, commonly used to heat homes in this area, burns at 21.7 British thermal units (BTU), which in simple terms, means it burns hot and long. Because of the air space between the pieces of wood, the amount of solid wood in a cord may be only 70-90 cubic feet, even though the volume of the stack is 128 cubic feet. The smoke from burning Russian olive pairs well with pork, lamb, seafood, poultry, pizzas, and vegetables. THE EARLY SNOW STORM DAMAGED A LOT OF TREES HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY NY. should be cut and split and dry out for two years before burning. Hey Mikee, your right, red oak goes fast and so does beech and elm. The wood will not keep very well even on a rack I have had it rot out. I live in the White Mountains of Arizona. I am planting osage orange, black walnut, sassafrass, and black locust. I live californnia. When the tempreture drops to single digits or below zero the BTU output keeps my home comfortable, I also like the shagbark hickery. I also recently got some red maple that makes a good fireplace flame, if not a lot of heat. Depending on the types of conditions that the Russian olive tree was growing in, it may be carrying a higher moisture content than you expect. just came from the woods. I live in southwest Oregon. Russian olive is good firewood to use when you already have the means to start a fire. You may notice that as the dry weight per cord increases, so does the BTU rating. Wood needs to typically produce healthy goals to allow the fire to stay hot and restart in the morning. I have some Hemlock and I can get some Hickory. All the old timers around only burn oak and turn their nose up at fir. Wood is limited to small-scale andhobbyistuses. Alex is a writer with a huge passion for the outdoors. I live on the Wind River Indian Reservation, in Wyoming, where Russian Olive is considered an invasive and unwanted species. We provide super-helpful axe advice that's ad-free. Like several posters have commented, a big chunk of fir will last for 5-6 hours in the wood stove, and makes for an easy re-start in the morning. Support me directly through PatreonIf youve been helped by the Wood Database, consider saying thanks and helping to support the project. I dont like the choke cherry and Orgon Ash. I think you have inspired me to do a test some day of oak vs madrone in a camp fire. Your web site is very informative. The cores, thick bark that protects the Russian olive wood makes it difficult for the wood to dry out as quickly as pine or fir if not split.
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